Durations 2025 presents "In Conversation," a discussion series with some of today’s most forward-thinking philosophers. Our first panel brings together Mitch Horowitz \[author, historian\], Phil Ford \[Weird Studies\], and Maeg Keane \[Third Sister Astrology\], hosted by Meredith Graves. About the Panel: To the newly-curious, both magic and philosophy may seem like daunting fields: both disciplines originate in the earliest eras of human history, require a lifetime of studying endlessly complex material, and leave you with more questions about the nature of existence. They may also initially seem mutually exclusive, with philosophy a formalized area of academic study rooted in logic and rationality, and occultism a more ephemeral mesh of ideas, beliefs and practices. However, to the trained eye, these two areas of study exist on the same plane — from the arguments of ancient thinkers as to the nature of spirits in the material world, to the entire discipline of metaphysics, the roles divination and dreaming have played in the development of certain schools of thought. Now, in modern times, many thinkers are seeking to further elucidate this historically prevalent yet arcane relationship and shine a light on the role each has played in the development of the other. Please join us for a mediated conversation between three highly-acclaimed esoteric thinkers as we shine light on potential sites of exploration at the interstice of thought and magic. Presented by Public Records. This is a 21+ event.